BMW S 1000 R versus Moto Guzzi V85 TT
BMW S 1000 R
Naked
Moto Guzzi V85 TT
Adventure
Year of construction / RRP / Test report
Built von 2014 bis 2024~
Built von 2019 bis 2024~
RRP 16.000 €
RRP 12.299 €
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Competitors
Pros:
- Full of performance ...
- .. but still easy to control
- high-quality workmanship
- cool sound
Pros:
- Processing
- Off-road characteristics
- Comfort
- Brake
Cons:
- Pillion operation only for emergencies
- Sitting position for some people probably too sporty
Cons:
- Power
Dimensions & Weight
Wheelbase: 1.450 mm
Length : 2.090 mm Height : 1.115 mm
Seat : 814 mm until : 830 mm
Weight : 199 (max: 407 ) kg
Length : 2.090 mm Height : 1.115 mm
Seat : 814 mm until : 830 mm
Weight : 199 (max: 407 ) kg
Wheelbase: 1.530 mm
Length : 2.240 mm Height : 1.300 mm
Seat : 830 mm
Weight : 230 (max: 448 ) kg
Length : 2.240 mm Height : 1.300 mm
Seat : 830 mm
Weight : 230 (max: 448 ) kg
Engine
Motor design: In-line four-cylinder 4-stroke 4 Cylinder
Displacement: 999 ccm
Hub: 50 mm
Hole: 80 mm
Cooling: flüssig
Drive: Kette
Aisles: 6
Displacement: 999 ccm
Hub: 50 mm
Hole: 80 mm
Cooling: flüssig
Drive: Kette
Aisles: 6
Motor design: 90°-V2-cylinder four-stroke 2 Cylinder
Displacement: 853 ccm
Hub: 77 mm
Hole: 84 mm
Cooling: luftgekühlt
Drive: Kardan
Aisles: 6
Displacement: 853 ccm
Hub: 77 mm
Hole: 84 mm
Cooling: luftgekühlt
Drive: Kardan
Aisles: 6
Performance
Maximum speed: 261 km/h
Performance: 165 HP at 11.000 U/Min
Torque: 114 NM bei 9.250 U/Min Tank contents: 17 Litre
Consumption: 6 l
Reach: 266 km
Performance: 165 HP at 11.000 U/Min
Torque: 114 NM bei 9.250 U/Min Tank contents: 17 Litre
Consumption: 6 l
Reach: 266 km
Maximum speed: 195 km/h
Performance: 80 HP at 7.750 U/Min
Torque: 83 NM bei 5.100 U/Min Tank contents: 23 Litre
Consumption: 5 l
Reach: 460 km
Performance: 80 HP at 7.750 U/Min
Torque: 83 NM bei 5.100 U/Min Tank contents: 23 Litre
Consumption: 5 l
Reach: 460 km
Chassis
Frame type:
Aluminium composite bridge frame, motor supporting (aluminium) Front suspension:
Telescopic fork (travel 120 mm) Rear suspension:
Central strut (travel 117 mm)
Rear suspension:
Two-arm swingarm Tyres at the front: 120/70 ZR 17
Rear tyres: 190/55 ZR 17
Aluminium composite bridge frame, motor supporting (aluminium) Front suspension:
Telescopic fork (travel 120 mm) Rear suspension:
Central strut (travel 117 mm)
Rear suspension:
Two-arm swingarm Tyres at the front: 120/70 ZR 17
Rear tyres: 190/55 ZR 17
Frame type:
Tubular space bridge frame (steel) Front suspension:
Hydraulic Ø 41 mm USD telescopic fork; Spring preload and rebound damping adjustable (travel 170 mm) Rear suspension:
lateral central strut, spring preload and tension rod adjustable (spring travel 170 mm)
Rear suspension:
Two-arm swingarm with integrated gimbal Tyres at the front: 110/80 - 19
Rear tyres: 150/70 - 17
Tubular space bridge frame (steel) Front suspension:
Hydraulic Ø 41 mm USD telescopic fork; Spring preload and rebound damping adjustable (travel 170 mm) Rear suspension:
lateral central strut, spring preload and tension rod adjustable (spring travel 170 mm)
Rear suspension:
Two-arm swingarm with integrated gimbal Tyres at the front: 110/80 - 19
Rear tyres: 150/70 - 17
Brakes
Front brake
Double disc (∅ 320 mm) Rear brake
Disc (∅ 220 mm)
Double disc (∅ 320 mm) Rear brake
Disc (∅ 220 mm)
Front brake
Double disc, Brembo radial monobloc calipers with 4 pistons (∅ 320 mm) Rear brake
Single disc, 2-piston brake caliper (∅ 260 mm)
Double disc, Brembo radial monobloc calipers with 4 pistons (∅ 320 mm) Rear brake
Single disc, 2-piston brake caliper (∅ 260 mm)
Conclusion - what sticks
The S 1000 R is basically a double R, from which the fairing has been removed and the torque curve on country roads has been optimised. It is super sporty, which can be an disadvantage and a disadvantage at the same time. If you want to sit upright on your streetfighter, you are out of place here. If you are looking for proximity to the front wheel and asphalt, you will find it here!In any case, we had tons of driving fun and did not feel overwhelmed despite the immense performance. This is exactly why you have to compliment BMW: Not all manufacturers succeed in putting such a grenade on the wheels for (almost) everyone. To anticipate misunderstandings: Of course, this motorcycle is not a beginner's machine!
The test machine was kindly provided by Bergmann & Söhne in Pinneberg - thank you!
The Individualist among the Enduros
What remains? The Moto Guzzi V85 TT performs well. At its core, it is a very clean, individual motorcycle that does not weaken in everyday life. The middle ground in terms of performance could be a little more committed to motor. But racers, no matter what ground, will have nothing to do with the guzzis of modern times anyway.
Any favours? No, Moto Guzzi customers don't need that. They appreciate that the newer models have caught up enormously in terms of connectivity, quality and suitability for everyday use without losing individuality. No matter in which colour and with which tire.
The test bike was provided to us by ZTS in Hamburg.
