BMW R 1150 R versus Moto Guzzi V85 TT
BMW R 1150 R
Naked
Moto Guzzi V85 TT
Adventure
Year of construction / RRP / Test report
Built von 2005 bis 2006
Built von 2019 bis 2025~
RRP
RRP 12.299 €
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Competitors
Pros:
- easy and manoeuvrable to drive despite size and weight
- used relatively cheap
- is also suitable as a tourer
- wonderful boxer with sound
- sufficient power, powerful torque
Pros:
- Processing
- Off-road characteristics
- Comfort
- Brake
Cons:
- vulnerable ABS system
- fiddly battery removal
Cons:
- Power
Dimensions & Weight
Wheelbase: 1.487 mm
Length : 2.170 mm Height : 1.220 mm
Seat : 800 mm
Weight : 238 (max: 450 ) kg
Length : 2.170 mm Height : 1.220 mm
Seat : 800 mm
Weight : 238 (max: 450 ) kg
Wheelbase: 1.530 mm
Length : 2.240 mm Height : 1.300 mm
Seat : 830 mm
Weight : 230 (max: 448 ) kg
Length : 2.240 mm Height : 1.300 mm
Seat : 830 mm
Weight : 230 (max: 448 ) kg
Engine
Motor design: Boxer 4-stroke 2 Cylinder
Displacement: 1.130 ccm
Hub: 71 mm
Hole: 101 mm
Cooling: Öl-Luft
Drive: Kardan
Aisles: 6
Displacement: 1.130 ccm
Hub: 71 mm
Hole: 101 mm
Cooling: Öl-Luft
Drive: Kardan
Aisles: 6
Motor design: 90°-V2-cylinder four-stroke 2 Cylinder
Displacement: 853 ccm
Hub: 77 mm
Hole: 84 mm
Cooling: luftgekühlt
Drive: Kardan
Aisles: 6
Displacement: 853 ccm
Hub: 77 mm
Hole: 84 mm
Cooling: luftgekühlt
Drive: Kardan
Aisles: 6
Performance
Maximum speed: 197 km/h
Performance: 85 HP at 6.750 U/Min
Torque: 98 NM bei 5.250 U/Min Tank contents: 21 Litre
Consumption: 5 l
Reach: 446 km
Performance: 85 HP at 6.750 U/Min
Torque: 98 NM bei 5.250 U/Min Tank contents: 21 Litre
Consumption: 5 l
Reach: 446 km
Maximum speed: 195 km/h
Performance: 80 HP at 7.750 U/Min
Torque: 83 NM bei 5.100 U/Min Tank contents: 23 Litre
Consumption: 5 l
Reach: 460 km
Performance: 80 HP at 7.750 U/Min
Torque: 83 NM bei 5.100 U/Min Tank contents: 23 Litre
Consumption: 5 l
Reach: 460 km
Chassis
Frame type:
Three-part frame concept consisting of front and rear frame with supporting engine (steel) Front suspension:
BMW Motorrad Telelever; Standpipe diameter 35 mm (travel 120 mm) Rear suspension:
Central strut (travel 135 mm)
Rear suspension:
Aluminum cast single-arm swingarm with Paralever Tyres at the front: 120/70 ZR 17
Rear tyres: 170/60 ZR 17
Three-part frame concept consisting of front and rear frame with supporting engine (steel) Front suspension:
BMW Motorrad Telelever; Standpipe diameter 35 mm (travel 120 mm) Rear suspension:
Central strut (travel 135 mm)
Rear suspension:
Aluminum cast single-arm swingarm with Paralever Tyres at the front: 120/70 ZR 17
Rear tyres: 170/60 ZR 17
Frame type:
Tubular space bridge frame (steel) Front suspension:
Hydraulic Ø 41 mm USD telescopic fork; Spring preload and rebound damping adjustable (travel 170 mm) Rear suspension:
lateral central strut, spring preload and tension rod adjustable (spring travel 170 mm)
Rear suspension:
Two-arm swingarm with integrated gimbal Tyres at the front: 110/80 - 19
Rear tyres: 150/70 - 17
Tubular space bridge frame (steel) Front suspension:
Hydraulic Ø 41 mm USD telescopic fork; Spring preload and rebound damping adjustable (travel 170 mm) Rear suspension:
lateral central strut, spring preload and tension rod adjustable (spring travel 170 mm)
Rear suspension:
Two-arm swingarm with integrated gimbal Tyres at the front: 110/80 - 19
Rear tyres: 150/70 - 17
Brakes
Front brake
Four-piston fixed caliper double disc brake (∅ 320 mm) Rear brake
Two-piston fixed caliper brake (∅ 276 mm)
Four-piston fixed caliper double disc brake (∅ 320 mm) Rear brake
Two-piston fixed caliper brake (∅ 276 mm)
Front brake
Double disc, Brembo radial monobloc calipers with 4 pistons (∅ 320 mm) Rear brake
Single disc, 2-piston brake caliper (∅ 260 mm)
Double disc, Brembo radial monobloc calipers with 4 pistons (∅ 320 mm) Rear brake
Single disc, 2-piston brake caliper (∅ 260 mm)
Conclusion - what gets stuck
The BMW R 1150 R is a grateful bike that offers riders a confident and safe riding experience even with high mileage. There are many used machines of this type, most fortunately in uncrafted original condition. But old machines are not really cheap either: 1150s are hardly available in good condition under 4,000 euros. To answer the opening question: Yes, it is still worth buying a 15-year-old motorcycle today. At least if it is a BMW R 1150 R.The Individualist among the Enduros
What remains? The Moto Guzzi V85 TT performs well. At its core, it is a very clean, individual motorcycle that does not weaken in everyday life. The middle ground in terms of performance could be a little more committed to motor. But racers, no matter what ground, will have nothing to do with the guzzis of modern times anyway.
Any favours? No, Moto Guzzi customers don't need that. They appreciate that the newer models have caught up enormously in terms of connectivity, quality and suitability for everyday use without losing individuality. No matter in which colour and with which tire.
The test bike was provided to us by ZTS in Hamburg.
