BMW R 1200 R versus Moto Guzzi V85 TT
BMW R 1200 R
Naked
Moto Guzzi V85 TT
Adventure
Year of construction / RRP / Test report
Built von 2007 bis 2017
Built von 2019 bis 2024~
RRP 13.100 €
RRP 12.299 €
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Competitors
Pros:
- relatively light for a boxer machine
- powerful engine with character
- upgradeable as an agile tourer
- no technical overload
- safe driving experience
Pros:
- Processing
- Off-road characteristics
- Comfort
- Brake
Cons:
- not cheap
- Windbreak underground
Cons:
- Power
Dimensions & Weight
Wheelbase: 1.515 mm
Length : 2.165 mm Height : 1.300 mm
Seat : 790 mm
Weight : 232 (max: 450 ) kg
Length : 2.165 mm Height : 1.300 mm
Seat : 790 mm
Weight : 232 (max: 450 ) kg
Wheelbase: 1.530 mm
Length : 2.240 mm Height : 1.300 mm
Seat : 830 mm
Weight : 230 (max: 448 ) kg
Length : 2.240 mm Height : 1.300 mm
Seat : 830 mm
Weight : 230 (max: 448 ) kg
Engine
Motor design: Boxer 2 Cylinder
Displacement: 1.170 ccm
Hub: 73 mm
Hole: 101 mm
Cooling: Luft
Drive: Kardan
Aisles: 6
Displacement: 1.170 ccm
Hub: 73 mm
Hole: 101 mm
Cooling: Luft
Drive: Kardan
Aisles: 6
Motor design: 90°-V2-cylinder four-stroke 2 Cylinder
Displacement: 853 ccm
Hub: 77 mm
Hole: 84 mm
Cooling: luftgekühlt
Drive: Kardan
Aisles: 6
Displacement: 853 ccm
Hub: 77 mm
Hole: 84 mm
Cooling: luftgekühlt
Drive: Kardan
Aisles: 6
Performance
Maximum speed: 220 km/h
Performance: 125 HP at 7.750 U/Min
Torque: 125 NM bei 6.500 U/Min Tank contents: 18 Litre
Consumption: 5 l
Reach: 363 km
Performance: 125 HP at 7.750 U/Min
Torque: 125 NM bei 6.500 U/Min Tank contents: 18 Litre
Consumption: 5 l
Reach: 363 km
Maximum speed: 195 km/h
Performance: 80 HP at 7.750 U/Min
Torque: 83 NM bei 5.100 U/Min Tank contents: 23 Litre
Consumption: 5 l
Reach: 460 km
Performance: 80 HP at 7.750 U/Min
Torque: 83 NM bei 5.100 U/Min Tank contents: 23 Litre
Consumption: 5 l
Reach: 460 km
Chassis
Frame type:
two-part frame concept consisting of the main frame and the rear frame bolted to it, supporting engine (steel) Front suspension:
Upside-down 45 mm (travel 140 mm) Rear suspension:
Mono strut (travel 140 mm)
Rear suspension:
Paralever Tyres at the front: 120/70 ZR 17
Rear tyres: 180/55 ZR 17
two-part frame concept consisting of the main frame and the rear frame bolted to it, supporting engine (steel) Front suspension:
Upside-down 45 mm (travel 140 mm) Rear suspension:
Mono strut (travel 140 mm)
Rear suspension:
Paralever Tyres at the front: 120/70 ZR 17
Rear tyres: 180/55 ZR 17
Frame type:
Tubular space bridge frame (steel) Front suspension:
Hydraulic Ø 41 mm USD telescopic fork; Spring preload and rebound damping adjustable (travel 170 mm) Rear suspension:
lateral central strut, spring preload and tension rod adjustable (spring travel 170 mm)
Rear suspension:
Two-arm swingarm with integrated gimbal Tyres at the front: 110/80 - 19
Rear tyres: 150/70 - 17
Tubular space bridge frame (steel) Front suspension:
Hydraulic Ø 41 mm USD telescopic fork; Spring preload and rebound damping adjustable (travel 170 mm) Rear suspension:
lateral central strut, spring preload and tension rod adjustable (spring travel 170 mm)
Rear suspension:
Two-arm swingarm with integrated gimbal Tyres at the front: 110/80 - 19
Rear tyres: 150/70 - 17
Brakes
Front brake
Double disc (∅ 320 mm) Rear brake
Disc (∅ 276 mm)
Double disc (∅ 320 mm) Rear brake
Disc (∅ 276 mm)
Front brake
Double disc, Brembo radial monobloc calipers with 4 pistons (∅ 320 mm) Rear brake
Single disc, 2-piston brake caliper (∅ 260 mm)
Double disc, Brembo radial monobloc calipers with 4 pistons (∅ 320 mm) Rear brake
Single disc, 2-piston brake caliper (∅ 260 mm)
Conclusion - what gets stuck
Wonderful, this BMW R1200 R. Not only beautiful, fast and safe, but also potent enough for an Alpine tour. Of course, this requires a suitcase system, which goes quite well into the money at BMW. And just a touring disc, which is to be used in the secondary market (e.B. MRA) for about 150 euros. In the mountains you should ride the other bikers quite nicely around the ears, because the 1200s brings everything you need: strength, agility, agility and above all the feeling of security that you can't really do much with this bike.The Individualist among the Enduros
What remains? The Moto Guzzi V85 TT performs well. At its core, it is a very clean, individual motorcycle that does not weaken in everyday life. The middle ground in terms of performance could be a little more committed to motor. But racers, no matter what ground, will have nothing to do with the guzzis of modern times anyway.
Any favours? No, Moto Guzzi customers don't need that. They appreciate that the newer models have caught up enormously in terms of connectivity, quality and suitability for everyday use without losing individuality. No matter in which colour and with which tire.
The test bike was provided to us by ZTS in Hamburg.
